The Great Debate

 The revelation of the Name of the Son of Man was needed in a certain tumultuous time to save the governance of Nature’s order. It became a saving name, saving order of Nature from collapse into chaos resulting from angelic sin. Now we too are given this name for our salvation, and the Name that sustains order in Nature now sustains morality in our lives. The Name is the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ. But Science is blind to this. Scientists get given a powerful delusion in their work, great though that work may be. They suffer a delusion that the Laws of Nature are so totally known by them, that powers of the governance of Nature cannot exist. Their Standard Model of Physics does not include any force or particle that would produce a miracle or act as part of any governing of Nature. There is no such Name force or particle known to their Science.  So they think that nothing is governing chance events. Their known atomic and subatomic particles and quantum forces do not govern Nature in any theological sense, nor produce miracles affirming or rewarding faith, so such rewards of faith, such miracles of God, and such governance of Nature the scientists tend to deny by their discipline of thinking and their delusion. God is hidden, and His powers are too. He reveals it to the child, the fool, the innocent believer, but hides it from these scientifically wise. We, if we count ourselves among the scientifically wise, might have to become scientifically foolish in order to be open to the revelation of what is hidden. Blindness to such things is both a punishment and a leveller, making low the lofty, leading to the rebuking of the scientifically wise, and eventually the humiliation of the intelligent and proud. Walk into a church, hear the gospel, believe it and be granted a miracle and the Holy Spirit, and this scientific wisdom is proven foolish. The Name of Jesus is higher than the name of Science. The cross on which he died is wiser. The resurrection by which he rose is mightier. God is real.  God is true even when every typical human thinks and tells their lies. The blessing of the righteous life produced by this faith, instantiated by Jesus Christ, is greater than all the blessings of Science, even to the next generation. 

Nature’s Governance

 How did angels do anything to govern Nature before the Name of the Son of Man was revealed and incorporated into that government? The Name of the Lord Jesus Christ is today prevalent in all of the ins and outs of Nature and how it is governed angelically. We might pour scorn on any concept of angels and any governance of Nature. But it is deeply entwined in Nature that there are boundaries that must be observed, such as the high and low water marks of tides, the length of a day, the place of the solstice and equinox rising and setting of the Sun. Think of it like standards such as the measurement of distance and time. In human systems we incorporate such measurements into our technologies and day to day lives and how things are governed. Our Internet is founded on such measurements. Our lives obey times of day, and calendar, and property boundaries. Even at a least informed level or way of life, a primitive and fairly isolated person might be devoid of all other technology, but in order to survive for decades, they might need to know the time of year in which to plant seeds for crops, or know when best to take crops to a market. So too in Nature. It is a metaphysical insight to know that trees must have some kind of authorisation in order to put forth buds and leaves, either at a certain time of year such as Spring, or, if they are evergreen, on a continual basis. Science cannot observe it. It is at another level that we have to know it. It is metaphysical. Order is built into Nature. Order must be governed. It is a metaphysical principle outside of Science. But it is theological to know that angels are in charge of such governing. Then the Creator who ordained it all is in charge of guiding that governance at the highest level. And into that governance is woven the Name of the Son of Man, and this lordship at the highest level under God is given to the Son, Jesus Christ, raised by God from the dead. His Name is incorporated into the governing of Nature. Angels incorporated this Name into their governing framework when that Name was revealed to them long ago. We can know this by the Holy Spirit. And so I want to know: How was Nature governed before this Name was revealed? The gospel of John reveals a Logos existing from the beginning. But it is a mystery how this Logos was there with God but with a Name at first not known to the angels entrusted with governing natural order. There is a scripture called the Book of Enoch which offers light on this matter. It reveals that angelic governance before the revelation to them of the Name of the Son of Man was fine until angels started falling from their moral uprightness and started wandering away from duty, and this fall is what necessitated a bolstering of the Oath by which Nature is governed. The revelation of the Name of the Son of Man was needed for this salvation of the governance of Nature’s order. It became a saving name, saving order of Nature from collapse into chaos resulting from angelic sin. So too with us. We are given this name for our salvation too. The Name that sustains order in Nature now sustains morality in our lives. 

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Faith versus works?

 Faith versus works? Faith, in the sense Apostle Paul and other apostles spoke of it, is all a matter of persuasion. There is the gospel message, and it persuades. There are righteous acts according to the teachings of Jesus Christ, and these too persuade. Being persuaded about the veracity and heaven-sent wisdom of Jesus Christ saves. The persuasion does not come from the kind of actions performed in the course of obedience to the Law, such as circumcision, keeping feasts, offering sacrifices. These were performed over and over by Jews of Paul’s time without resulting in saving persuasion. It was good, yes, but not saving. It still fell short of pleasing God. Paul himself had lived in full compliance with these works of Law, as he called them; these actions which built Jewish identity, yet he still persecuted the church and grieved the Lord Jesus Christ by it. Jesus taught people teachings which persuaded them to believe he is from God, and that he could and would save those who truly followed him. He taught that persuasion of this kind and holding to his teachings was what constituted truly following him, and he would save these followers, these disciples, from falling short of what pleases God, saving them from eternal death, giving them eternal life. Paul affirmed that such persuasion is what leads to saving righteousness; true righteousness. Obedience to the identity-forming aspects of the Jewish Law did not constitute this, not persuade in the way necessary for this salvation. Obedience to Christ and his teachings is powerfully persuasive, even though some might think it is one set of works replacing another. Keeping the Lord’s Supper, for example, is a matter of powerful persuasion, because it proclaims the saving gospel message that Jesus Christ was offered as sacrifice for our moral shortcomings, dying on the cross for them, once and for all. Baptism shows how he died and then rose again. This all spreads the heavenly, persuasive message, which saves by persuasion. 

Mysterious entity of the Holy Spirit

 Mysterious entity the Holy Spirit comes as comforter of disciples of Jesus but is unknowable to people of the world in general. The things known to Jesus as given to Jesus by the Father, this Holy Spirit makes known to disciples of Jesus, believers who meet in the name of Jesus. The Holy Spirit knows heavenly things concerning the power and top position Jesus holds next to God the Most High. These are things affecting all created things, living things, planetary bodies, physics and chemistry and biology in the total universe. It all derives its authority to operate in its scientific order from the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and this Holy Spirit knows all the ins and outs of these things and can make them known to disciples of Jesus for their comfort and edification as one body with Jesus Christ as head. In this is rooted the sayings so mysterious in scriptures such as in the preface of the gospel of John where it says of the Word which eventually became flesh as Jesus, “In him was life, and that life was the light of men”. It has been the Holy Spirit making such things known, and this comforting ministry goes right back to the beginnings of prophecy, as is found in the early chapters of the Book of Enoch, and as the prophets have proclaimed ever since: This eternal spirit forever at work. God bless those who have this spirit of truth operating in and through them. 

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The Son and the Father

 Is it a problem, scripture addresses, for God the Most High to have a Son, literally called the Son of God? Psalms which addressed it are especially relevant because it was someone, king David, writing the psalms who was himself given promises of having a future son who would be called God’s son. The ancient Israelite king David who wrote many of the psalms wrote how the Most High said to David’s lord “Sit at my right hand” and told this lord that his throne would be forever. This Most High also said to this lord “You are My son”. It might all have been a little ambiguous, though, in the later time of Jesus, so Jesus addressed it diligently, as John’s gospel records. Jesus claimed to actually be this lord who had been spoken of by David centuries earlier in those psalms. So Jesus was clearing up ambiguities about himself. The miracles God gave him to perform were God, the Father’s, way to back up this self-testimony of Jesus, to make it more appropriate for Jesus to be preaching a testimony about himself. Jesus addressed a real problem: This was the problem later described as the problem of two powers in heaven. Scripture ostensibly did not allow for it, unless you dug down into these psalms where it is clear that there is this lord, the lord psalm-writer King David called “my lord” who is addressed by the Most High and thus distinct from the Most High, but nevertheless there at the right hand of this Most High God. It is remarkable that Jesus solved this problem by stated unequivocally that he and the Father are one. It is as if he was going beyond the mere problem of his claim to be Son of God by addressing the even deeper problem that if God did have a son, and this son was given to reign forever at God’s right hand, it would imply two powers in heaven, and make certain scriptures about God saying “I alone am God”, and “there is none apart from Me” rather difficult to reconcile with the existence forever of such a son. Jesus reconciles it by pointing out his unity with the Father, and by emphasising that the Father is still alone the Most High God. Humans can be called gods. Jesus appealed to this to reconcile the further problem of this son being a human. How, one might argue, can there be a human called by God His Son, right there forever reigning with God? Jesus addressed it by showing how it is all right there in the scripture psalms, but clarifies these with other relevant scriptures by pointing out his deep unity with the Father who is forever the Most High God. He, Jesus, is not a second power in that he is fully at one with the one true Most High, and not a challenger to that highest claim. Later he clarified the nature of this unity by praying for the same kind of unity to be given by God to Jesus’ disciples. Being one with the Father in such unity meant he can be forever there beside the Father and the Father still to be the Most High God. It also meant that there can be one who is human in this exalted position with the Most High. And Jesus would forever subject himself to this Most High, as Paul later put it, so this God is still forever the God who is all in all. Then, as John in Revelation later put it, the Son would be forever reigning from the throne of the One seated in heaven: The human Son of God, is seen forever there with the Father, and it is this Father alone who is called “the One”. The Father has the throne and forever it is He who shares it with His human Son. He has it and has power to share it even with a human, who He calls His Son. Jesus clarified it all and reconciled the scriptures which seemed in tension, and he did so first personally and then through apostles he sent out to proclaim him. He testified to the truth of it all, and sent others to do so, and the Father gave testimony too in the miracles given to these to do. 

References

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The Most High declares His King to be His Son

Psalms Psalm 2:6–12

"Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

I will declare the decree: The LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance...

Kiss the Son, lest he be angry..."

Relevance: The foundational Psalm declaring God's anointed king to be "My Son."

David's Lord seated at God's right hand

Psalms Psalm 110:1–4

"The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool....

The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek."

Relevance: David distinguishes "the LORD" from "my Lord," yet this Lord sits forever at God's right hand.

David's promised son

2 Samuel 2 Samuel 7:12–16

"I will set up thy seed after thee...

I will establish the throne of his kingdom for ever.

I will be his father, and he shall be my son...

Thine house and thy kingdom shall be established for ever."

Relevance: God's covenant with David promises a royal son who is called God's son.

1 Chronicles 1 Chronicles 17:11–14

"I will be his father, and he shall be my son...

I will settle him in mine house and in my kingdom for ever."

God's uniqueness

Isaiah Isaiah 43:10–11

"Before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour."

Isaiah Isaiah 44:6

"I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God."

Isaiah Isaiah 45:5–6

"I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me."

Deuteronomy Deuteronomy 6:4

"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD."

Jesus identifies David's Lord

Matthew Matthew 22:41–46

"If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?"

Relevance: Jesus explicitly identifies himself with Psalm 110.

Parallel passages:

• Mark Mark 12:35–37
• Luke Luke 20:41–44

Jesus claims unity with the Father

John John 10:24–38

Especially:

"I and my Father are one."

and

"The Father is in me, and I in him."

Relevance: Central passage for the unity of Father and Son.

The Father is greater

John John 14:28

"My Father is greater than I."

The only true God

John John 17:1–3

"...that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."

Jesus explains "gods"

John John 10:34–36

"Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

If he called them gods...

Say ye of him... Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?"

Jesus is quoting:

Psalms Psalm 82:6

"I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High."

The Father's testimony through works

John John 5:31–37

"The Father himself... hath borne witness of me."

John John 10:25

"The works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me."

Acts Acts 2:22

"Jesus... a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him...."

Unity extended to believers

John John 17:20–23

"That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee...

that they may be one, even as we are one."

The Son remains subject to the Father

1 Corinthians 1 Corinthians 15:24–28

Especially:

"Then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him...

that God may be all in all."

God exalts the Son

Philippians Philippians 2:8–11

"God also hath highly exalted him...

every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

Hebrews' use of the Psalms

Hebrews Hebrews 1:1–13

Especially:

"Unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son..."

and

"Sit on my right hand..."

This chapter explicitly joins Psalm 2 and Psalm 110.

Stephen sees the Son beside God

Acts Acts 7:55–56

"I see... the Son of man standing on the right hand of God."

Christ at God's right hand

Ephesians Ephesians 1:20–23

"...set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places."

Colossians Colossians 3:1

"Christ sitteth on the right hand of God."

The throne in Revelation

Revelation Revelation 3:21

"I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne."

Revelation Revelation 5:6–13

The One seated on the throne and the Lamb are both present in heavenly worship.

Revelation Revelation 7:10

"Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb."

Revelation Revelation 22:1–5

"The throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it...

and his servants shall serve him."

Supporting passages

• Daniel Daniel 7:13–14 — the Son of Man receives everlasting dominion from the Ancient of Days.
• Acts Acts 13:32–39 — Paul applies Psalm 2 to Jesus.
• Romans Romans 1:3–4 — Jesus declared to be the Son of God.
• 1 Timothy 1 Timothy 2:5 — "one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus."
• Hebrews Hebrews 5:5–10 — Psalm 2 and Psalm 110 brought together again regarding Christ.

Taken together, these passages form a coherent scriptural chain: God's covenant with David (2 Samuel 7), the royal Psalms (especially Psalms 2 and 110), Jesus' own interpretation of those Psalms (Matthew 22; John 10), his teaching on his unity with the Father (John 10; John 17), the Father's testimony through Jesus' works (John 5; Acts 2), Paul's teaching that the Son remains subject to the Father so that "God may be all in all" (1 Corinthians 15), and John's vision of the Father and the Lamb sharing the divine throne in Revelation.